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and made sense he would go up and buy up single family homes. he'd do it in florida, arizona, nevada, that was the argument. >> i think the mortgage market has to come back for the residential end user but i'd buy some land divisions, lot developments that will make sense over the next couple of years. >> behind the curtain of the commercial business. >> steven and i were talking a minute ago about retailers and e-commerce and we see a big impact from e-commerce when we buy a shopping center, we have to pay attention to our cost basis so that retailers who come in and occupy that space will have the ability to compete against e-commerce and do well and protect their profit margins so we're seeing retailers absorb. >> can they get there? >> they can. >> because they'll always have that nut. >> it depends what retailers. >> and the internet price is going to pivot off the bricks and mortar price. >> it depends what retailers. some soft goods. you look at the auto parts retailers and the dollar stores, those are neighborhood locations that just cannot be replicated via e-commerce so som
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